Comments on: Zong and Warid are worst in Human Resource Category http://www.apnatime.com/3186/2009/12/16/telecom/zong-and-warid-are-worst-in-human-resource-category/ Pakistani Telecommunication & IT News Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:19:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: HASEEB http://www.apnatime.com/3186/2009/12/16/telecom/zong-and-warid-are-worst-in-human-resource-category/#comment-1331 HASEEB Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:02:31 +0000 http://www.apnatime.com/?p=3186#comment-1331 Great work Mudassar. Great work Mudassar.

]]> By: Zulfiqar Esani http://www.apnatime.com/3186/2009/12/16/telecom/zong-and-warid-are-worst-in-human-resource-category/#comment-365 Zulfiqar Esani Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:56:05 +0000 http://www.apnatime.com/?p=3186#comment-365 Telenor: "There are no layoffs unless there is a violation of the code of conduct or a lack of ability to meet competence standards" This is absurd; Telenor has its own way of laying off people. Code of Conduct and Ability/competency are tricky things they play with, they force employee to resign otherwise he will get terminated and "Bechara" employee get frightened and resigns. Other case is that if line management becomes personal with someone they can easily make a dummy case; be it a Code of conduct case or competence; HR is helpless here. When line is determined to get rid of someone they get it done. There are hundreds of such cases. Telenor:

"There are no layoffs unless there is a violation of the code of conduct or a lack of ability to meet competence standards"

This is absurd; Telenor has its own way of laying off people. Code of Conduct and Ability/competency are tricky things they play with, they force employee to resign otherwise he will get terminated and "Bechara" employee get frightened and resigns.

Other case is that if line management becomes personal with someone they can easily make a dummy case; be it a Code of conduct case or competence; HR is helpless here. When line is determined to get rid of someone they get it done. There are hundreds of such cases.

]]> By: Ahmad Bilal http://www.apnatime.com/3186/2009/12/16/telecom/zong-and-warid-are-worst-in-human-resource-category/#comment-293 Ahmad Bilal Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:32:36 +0000 http://www.apnatime.com/?p=3186#comment-293 I agree with Mudassar about the HR standards of Zong and Warid, but some solid references would have made the article more authentic. With above given references the articles feels like a general opinion coined about the companies. I agree with Mudassar about the HR standards of Zong and Warid, but some solid references would have made the article more authentic.

With above given references the articles feels like a general opinion coined about the companies.

]]> By: Jamil Arif http://www.apnatime.com/3186/2009/12/16/telecom/zong-and-warid-are-worst-in-human-resource-category/#comment-292 Jamil Arif Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:16:55 +0000 http://www.apnatime.com/?p=3186#comment-292 Nice Work but i guess this in not only the case in telecom sector its all over in Pakistan form govt to private sector. Private sector know that their are no pressure groups and if any exist then they don't bother about it so they are taking "Chilling Out" and Enjoying the great profits. Nice Work but i guess this in not only the case in telecom sector its all over in Pakistan form govt to private sector. Private sector know that their are no pressure groups and if any exist then they don't bother about it so they are taking "Chilling Out" and Enjoying the great profits.

]]> By: ali http://www.apnatime.com/3186/2009/12/16/telecom/zong-and-warid-are-worst-in-human-resource-category/#comment-297 ali Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:10:49 +0000 http://www.apnatime.com/?p=3186#comment-297 So true about HR of warid but dont know about zong n u fone. I can only compare two warid & telenor. telenor is doing great in hr because when I was in telenor it was just awesome n warid was just like u can say fair not good not bad. but the gap b/w warid n telenor's hr is huge. So true about HR of warid but dont know about zong n u fone. I can only compare two warid & telenor. telenor is doing great in hr because when I was in telenor it was just awesome n warid was just like u can say fair not good not bad. but the gap b/w warid n telenor’s hr is huge.

]]> By: Zubair Rehman http://www.apnatime.com/3186/2009/12/16/telecom/zong-and-warid-are-worst-in-human-resource-category/#comment-290 Zubair Rehman Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:57:41 +0000 http://www.apnatime.com/?p=3186#comment-290 When i was studying, I was told that HR is this and that but I have not seen an HR followed in companies all over Pakistan. People don't wanna follow HR as a specialization subject because the companies offering jobs in HR are so many but proper implementation are not done in any of the company so far. Another reason for company's failure in Pakistan is their poor HR. Another scenario is that HR Manager is responsible for hiring new persons according to the company's requirement but sometimes CEO or other higher management hires person of their own who never becomes a proper part of the company but becomes and extra burden on company's resources, this practice should be ended. When i was studying, I was told that HR is this and that but I have not seen an HR followed in companies all over Pakistan. People don't wanna follow HR as a specialization subject because the companies offering jobs in HR are so many but proper implementation are not done in any of the company so far. Another reason for company's failure in Pakistan is their poor HR. Another scenario is that HR Manager is responsible for hiring new persons according to the company's requirement but sometimes CEO or other higher management hires person of their own who never becomes a proper part of the company but becomes and extra burden on company's resources, this practice should be ended.

]]> By: nabeel http://www.apnatime.com/3186/2009/12/16/telecom/zong-and-warid-are-worst-in-human-resource-category/#comment-289 nabeel Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:54:00 +0000 http://www.apnatime.com/?p=3186#comment-289 Just some snipets I loved: - Telenor: "According to Telenor, " - Mobilink: "We attach the highest... Our HR policies...We....." - Zong: "A senior ex-employee..." - Warid: "...from a laid off employee..." One our instructors always told us that if you want to understand an issue, look at who has been quoted and who hasn't. Just some snipets I loved:

- Telenor: "According to Telenor, "

- Mobilink: "We attach the highest… Our HR policies…We….."

- Zong: "A senior ex-employee…"

- Warid: "…from a laid off employee…"

One our instructors always told us that if you want to understand an issue, look at who has been quoted and who hasn't.

]]> By: Tariq http://www.apnatime.com/3186/2009/12/16/telecom/zong-and-warid-are-worst-in-human-resource-category/#comment-288 Tariq Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:11:33 +0000 http://www.apnatime.com/?p=3186#comment-288 I would second this opinion about Warid. I am one of the victims of this group who runs Warid, Wateen and Alflah Bank in Pakistan. They have no vision of management. In fact there are two brothers Pervez Shahid and Bashir A. Tahir running the show here in Asia including Pakistan. The executive management in Abu Dhabi is most of the time unaware of the situation. Last year they hired 50 staff members of different newspapers, to launch English daily from Pakistan. It was supposed to be the Pakistan version of The National which now being printed in Abu Dhabi. They gathered staff from other newspapers on higher salaries. Just after six months they had a second thought and they closed the project and fired most of the staff members with thinking about their career and families. This is ruthless and criminal. They show the same kind of the ruthlessness in all aspects of management in all the companies they are running. I would advise all professional to stay away from this group and do not join them no matter whatever they offer. Tariq Pervaiz ex GM Admin & HR The National (Amoon Media Group) I would second this opinion about Warid. I am one of the victims of this group who runs Warid, Wateen and Alflah Bank in Pakistan. They have no vision of management. In fact there are two brothers Pervez Shahid and Bashir A. Tahir running the show here in Asia including Pakistan. The executive management in Abu Dhabi is most of the time unaware of the situation. Last year they hired 50 staff members of different newspapers, to launch English daily from Pakistan. It was supposed to be the Pakistan version of The National which now being printed in Abu Dhabi. They gathered staff from other newspapers on higher salaries. Just after six months they had a second thought and they closed the project and fired most of the staff members with thinking about their career and families. This is ruthless and criminal.

They show the same kind of the ruthlessness in all aspects of management in all the companies they are running. I would advise all professional to stay away from this group and do not join them no matter whatever they offer.

Tariq Pervaiz

ex GM Admin & HR

The National (Amoon Media Group)

]]> By: M.Farhan http://www.apnatime.com/3186/2009/12/16/telecom/zong-and-warid-are-worst-in-human-resource-category/#comment-287 M.Farhan Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:49:15 +0000 http://www.apnatime.com/?p=3186#comment-287 Great work Mudassar. Great work Mudassar.

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